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Pay scale

Bubba

#9204

Pay scale | 3 October, 1999

What is the average pay that a SMT Programmer would get? The machines would be Fuji and Universal.

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Chris May

#9205

Re: Pay scale | 4 October, 1999

| What is the average pay that a SMT Programmer would get? The machines would be Fuji and Universal. | This is going to open up a can of worms involving phrases relating to monkeys and peanuts. I have come across a spectrum of scales depending on the company, financial climate etc; Some were salaried (�17K5 - �20K) others were hourly paid (�6-�8) with overtime and shift allowance.

At the end of the day, you will pay someone depending upon what they can bring to the party and how much they are worth to you and what you have budgetted for.

A good/experienced operators salary etc; will be negotiable. If you can get the right person that will make your systems dance a merry jig, look after them.

Regards,

Chris.

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JAX

#9206

Re: Pay scale | 4 October, 1999

| | What is the average pay that a SMT Programmer would get? The machines would be Fuji and Universal. | | This is going to open up a can of worms involving phrases relating to monkeys and peanuts. I have come across a spectrum of scales depending on the company, financial climate etc; | Some were salaried (�17K5 - �20K) others were hourly paid (�6-�8) with overtime and shift allowance. | | At the end of the day, you will pay someone depending upon what they can bring to the party and how much they are worth to you and what you have budgetted for. | | A good/experienced operators salary etc; will be negotiable. If you can get the right person that will make your systems dance a merry jig, look after them. | | Regards, | | Chris. | | Bubba, Chris is correct on being able to negotiate pay but if you are worth your salt I would wait until at least double that.

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Joe Fields

#9207

Re: Pay scale | 4 October, 1999

| | What is the average pay that a SMT Programmer would get? The machines would be Fuji and Universal. | | This is going to open up a can of worms involving phrases relating to monkeys and peanuts. I have come across a spectrum of scales depending on the company, financial climate etc; | Some were salaried (�17K5 - �20K) others were hourly paid (�6-�8) with overtime and shift allowance. | | At the end of the day, you will pay someone depending upon what they can bring to the party and how much they are worth to you and what you have budgetted for. | | A good/experienced operators salary etc; will be negotiable. If you can get the right person that will make your systems dance a merry jig, look after them. | | Regards, | | Chris. | | Bubba, Chris is right about opening a can of worms, although thats all he is right about. Jax was getting closer not quite there. Even if all you can do is get a machine to dance like the JERK you are still looking at a range starting about $13.00. If it dances a jig, pull out the check books. For $6.00 to $8.00 you are looking for trouble. Nobody that takes the time to understand Algorithms is going to work for minimum wage+.

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#9208

Re: Pay scale | 4 October, 1999

| What is the average pay that a SMT Programmer would get? The machines would be Fuji and Universal. | Bubba: The points made by others about company size and location are pertinent. Further, you should consider the "complete package" of salary and benefits in making most comparisons.

You didn't state the purpose of your search (ie, "I know I should be paid more" "What's a fair pay someone?"), so it's a little difficult to guage a response. Regardless, I consider the information gleaned here of limited value, not be disrespectful to anyone. ;-)

Consider bolstering your case, what ever it may be, with:

1 Trade journals publish annual salary surveys, based on responses from their subscribers. "Circuits Assembly" is one such journal that comes to mind. Check your back issues. They may publish an abbreviated version on-line. 2 Search engines produce boat loads of salary surveys on the web. 3 Professional societies publish salary surveys. 4 If you approach a job search company that specializes in your area, Fortune maybe, under the correct circumstances, they will give you some information. 5 Regional industrial booster organizations often publish a salary survey to assist local companies and companies considering relocation.

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Dave F

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BSMITH

#9209

Re: Pay scale | 5 October, 1999

| What is the average pay that a SMT Programmer would get? The machines would be Fuji and Universal. |

Bubba,

There are many factors in determining a programmers salary. Some factors include:

(1) Number of machines you are capable of programming. (2) Troubleshooting techniques (all area's incl. mechanical) (3) Optimization techniques. (4) Technique.

Programmers in the western U.S. are averaging between $10 and $20 an hour. The majority of programmers I've talk to are earning between these two figures.

Programmers should evolve to engineers. Programmers alone do not evolve making big dollars. While you're doing this, ensure you are learning taking engineering classes to continue building your career.

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Anonymous

#9210

Re: Pay scale | 7 October, 1999

| | | What is the average pay that a SMT Programmer would get? The machines would be Fuji and Universal. | | | This is going to open up a can of worms involving phrases relating to monkeys and peanuts. I have come across a spectrum of scales depending on the company, financial climate etc; | | Some were salaried (�17K5 - �20K) others were hourly paid (�6-�8) with overtime and shift allowance. | | | | At the end of the day, you will pay someone depending upon what they can bring to the party and how much they are worth to you and what you have budgetted for. | | | | A good/experienced operators salary etc; will be negotiable. If you can get the right person that will make your systems dance a merry jig, look after them. | | | | Regards, | | | | Chris. | | | | Bubba, | Chris is correct on being able to negotiate pay but if you are worth your salt I would wait until at least double that. | | I worked strictly as a machine programmer for about a year and a half for less than $10/hr. I later evolved to a position more deeply involed in process control and make more along the lines of $13/hr. I live in an uppermidwest communtiy where wages are rather low (I'm probably above average).

Personally I feel that programmers are way over rated. They really need to know nothing about algorithims and must possess only basic math skills. I found most software packages to be less complex than the computer games I play at home. Having worked in the position myself, I think your average High School grad could easily fill the position if a more educated Engineer is available for support. $7/hr is probably about right(please don't tell my boss).

Process support on the other hand is a far more complex situation requiring strong trouble-shooting skills and intimate knowlege of the machines and materials. An eperienced technician (I don't consider myself to be experienced yet) is probably worth at least $20/hr depending on background, education, cost of living for your area, etc..

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JAX

#9211

Re: Pay scale | 7 October, 1999

| | | | What is the average pay that a SMT Programmer would get? The machines would be Fuji and Universal. | | | | This is going to open up a can of worms involving phrases relating to monkeys and peanuts. I have come across a spectrum of scales depending on the company, financial climate etc; | | | Some were salaried (�17K5 - �20K) others were hourly paid (�6-�8) with overtime and shift allowance. | | | | | | At the end of the day, you will pay someone depending upon what they can bring to the party and how much they are worth to you and what you have budgetted for. | | | | | | A good/experienced operators salary etc; will be negotiable. If you can get the right person that will make your systems dance a merry jig, look after them. | | | | | | Regards, | | | | | | Chris. | | | | | | Bubba, | | Chris is correct on being able to negotiate pay but if you are worth your salt I would wait until at least double that. | | | | | I worked strictly as a machine programmer for about a year and a half for less than $10/hr. I later evolved to a position more deeply involed in process control and make more along the lines of $13/hr. I live in an uppermidwest communtiy where wages are rather low (I'm probably above average). | | Personally I feel that programmers are way over rated. They really need to know nothing about algorithims and must possess only basic math skills. I found most software packages to be less complex than the computer games I play at home. Having worked in the position myself, I think your average High School grad could easily fill the position if a more educated Engineer is available for support. $7/hr is probably about right(please don't tell my boss). | | Process support on the other hand is a far more complex situation requiring strong trouble-shooting skills and intimate knowlege of the machines and materials. An eperienced technician (I don't consider myself to be experienced yet) is probably worth at least $20/hr depending on background, education, cost of living for your area, etc.. | whatever your name is, You are probably right about being worth around $7.00/hr if you don't take the time to actually learn how the machine operates. once you understand what drives the machine to do what it does you become worth the larger dollar amounts. I am not sure where you work but for a company to have a position of programmer and not require them to be capable of troubleshooting is crazy. I do not feel that you can actually be a programmer and not know this. How good can your programs be? How well can you handle deviations? You need to understand why you do something not do it because it worked LAST TIME!

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